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The San Francisco Giants twitter account did some Social Media connecting with their fanbase during the workday on Wednesday by getting the Vice President and Assistant General Manager of Baseball Operations Bobby Evans, who actually didn’t hide a whole lot in terms of plans for players and depth chart matters. Unfortunately not all questions got answered, but we got some additional insight to add on to what we were given when they held the Town Hall last week at AT&T Park.
On the off-season priorities:
— San Francisco Giants (@SFGiants) December 11, 2013
— San Francisco Giants (@SFGiants) December 11, 2013
No surprise on Brown, as his numbers have been dipping and reports haven’t been as glowing recently as they were going into the draft. On prospect Mac Williamson:
Mac is the hot name on the hitting circuit for Giants fans, and a good season in San Jose will definitely help. On depth at infield…
I asked about the #3 spot especially since there have been rumors that Hector Sanchez has been a player teams have asked about in trades.
On Kyle Crick‘s plan for 2014:
— San Francisco Giants (@SFGiants) December 11, 2013
Not surprising that the Giants are going level-by-level for Crick.
— San Francisco Giants (@SFGiants) December 11, 2013
Sometimes these Q&A sessions can be pretty lame but Mr. Evans gave out some good information today that gave us a better idea of what the plans for the Giants are for 2014 and what some of their depth plans are as well.
The news that may have caught the ears of most of the San Francisco Giants fanbase willing to listen in early December was that if, per Giants management, Pablo Sandoval came to Spring Training in shape, then he would be rewarded with contract extension talks, as Pablo goes into his final year of team control. Sandoval will not be 28 until August of 2014, which will easily put him at the youngest of the free agent class of 3B going into the 2014 offseason. Who are the other members of the 2014 3B Free Agent class, you ask? Thanks to MLB Trade Rumors, I can tell you exactly which players:
Alberto Callaspo (32)
Jack Hannahan (35) – $4MM club option with a $2MM buyout
Chase Headley (31)
Donnie Murphy (32)
Nick Punto (37) – club/vesting option
Aramis Ramirez (37) – mutual option
Hanley Ramirez (31)
Pablo Sandoval (28)
Ty Wigginton (37)
There were reports Hanley Ramirez might be working on an extension with the Dodgers, and really unless he gets more injured in many more places, it’s hard to see the Dodgers not keeping HanRam. Chase Headley is either going to be long-termed by the Padres or traded for a package, because keeping him around for a supplemental draft pick off of a qualifying offer doesn’t make much sense to me (and that’s final! *wipes hands clean*). So your choices then are everything else. Want to try in-house? Joe Panik positional change? Probably to 2B more than 3B, so unlikely. Ryder Jones? Only 19, still a ways to go. Adam Duvall — can he hold his own at the 3B position while improving power and lowering K%? That’s left to be seen. Duvall may be the Giants’ strongest threat against Pablo to show he is replaceable as opposed to saying, “You know, Donnie Murphy would look pret-ty good in black and orange starting for us.”
A Pablo extension wouldn’t be the end-all for Duvall or Jones, you can’t have too much depth and it gives time for the young Ryder to develop through the system. The good thing about the Panda, which has been hinted at in the article title, is Pablo’s age. If Pablo goes into the offseason as a position player, he could be one of two or three players in their twenties that hits the market (number of players depends on if the Royals’ Billy Butler‘s club option gets picked up). Maybe Pablo’s best years are behind him because that’s when he was at his best physically and once he gets paid he won’t care about fitness. I don’t know. Pablo though, has still shown some use even in the last two years, which haven’t been his best days. 26 HR combined in those last two seasons combined is just one over the 25 he clubbed in 2009 and we’ve all been waiting for him to pass 30 since. His K% has held pretty steady in the 13% range throughout his career, a BABIP in the low .300′s — matching .301′s in ’12 and ’13, and mostly above average production in wRC+ every year but 2010. Everybody gets frustrated with Pablo because we’ve seen great things out of him and we blame his failures to meet expectations on his fat.
As difficult as it is, this saga of #FatChats and whatnots, I believe keeping Pablo around is the best move for the Giants here, and as long as Pablo is healthy (and skinny), I’m pretty sure he knows it, too. If he has someone supervising him in addition to his brother cooking for him — I don’t know why, but — I trust the process. I think the extension needs to get done otherwise the Giants could find themselves with a problem at the hot corner. To answer any questions, no, I’m not ready for Buster Posey at 3B. I like him at catcher until he and the Giants agree he’s had enough. Contract length and numbers I’ve seen floated around social media from fans are probably five years with fifteen-twenty million of average annual value being where it would land. I think the Giants could get it done in that lower range for now, but if Pablo explodes offensively in 2014 before a deal is done, you better believe twenty a year won’t be out of the question.
I’m at home recovering from the stomach flu and I’ve still got some lingering pain so I figure I’m still contagious. Well enough to blog, though, so that means a lot of MLB Network and social media hanging out. In hanging out and tweeting about Hot Stove this morning, a follower dropped a question my way:
— Randy Boyles ⚾ (@lord_randall) December 11, 2013
As I responded to Randy, there are really a select few players that probably are essentially off-limits. I mean, Mike Trout and Bryce Harper are probably going to command a farm in their current position, and I’m not sure it would make sense for any team involved. Anyway, I digress. Bob Elliott of the Toronto Sun reported that Colby Rasmus is on the trading block and Toronto has asked for starting pitching in return from two teams to date. Are the Giants one of those teams? I sure as heck don’t know. The Giants have been reportedly been asked about starting pitcher in the minors Edwin Escobar, so if a team came calling about pitching, he’s probably more likely a guy Toronto would ask about than someone like Mike Kickham.
So let’s say a Rasmus deal happens and he comes over to the Bay Area, how does he fit in with the Giants? Platoon partner with Gregor Blanco or full-time starter? First thing’s first, Colby Rasmus is a left-handed hitter, so we can take away the platoon idea, so he would either be a starter or a bench player. He has been playing center field for the last few years, which would spar some interesting thought bubbles as to whether he can force Angel Pagan over to left. As for Rasmus’ numbers, let’s go to the spreadsheets:
|162 Game Avg.||162||626||28||4||23||6||4||55||151||.248||.317||.436||103|
|STL (3 yrs)||385||1440||64||11||50||20||11||144||320||.259||.334||.444||110|
|TOR (3 yrs)||304||1223||57||6||48||4||4||89||323||.237||.298||.428||95|
|AL (3 yrs)||304||1223||57||6||48||4||4||89||323||.237||.298||.428||95|
|NL (3 yrs)||385||1440||64||11||50||20||11||144||320||.259||.334||.444||110|
Included in Rasmus’ better 2013 was his .365 wOBA and 130 wRC+, his best numbers since 2010 when he had a .369 wOBA and 130 wRC+. So Rasmus clearly has had his years when he has hit. Fangraphs has his fielding in 2009 and 2013 as well above average, although other year have been less than stellar. Talk about a hot and cold player. When he’s hot, he’s your starter. When he’s cold, he’s a bench player — although to be fair, that describes a lot of players at any level. Anybody the Giants acquire in a trade or use from their system — be it Juan Perez or Roger Kieschnick — will have their flaws. Just a matter of finding whose you can live with most. Rasmus played more than 150 games for the first time in 2012, played more than 143 games three times in his five years of play, so there is a little worry with can he play a whole season. A more 2010/2013 Colby Rasmus would help any club, and so Toronto selling high on him that they themselves don’t seem to be sure that Rasmus can repeat this performance in 2014, the last year of his team control, should make you think a little bit, for sure. Joel Sherman on MLBN just mentioned, and I’ve heard this as well, the outfield crop for the next offseason doesn’t look too great, and maybe the Giants get a jump on it by getting Rasmus. MLB Trade Rumors has Rasmus’ projected arbitration earnings for 2014 at $6.5 million.
So Colby Rasmus being on the Giants? He would be a full-time starter, and I’m hoping he would force Angel Pagan to the left field spot. Now it’s just a matter of if it happens or not. The Giants have said they’ll either look in-house or through a trade for their next outfielder, and if they can spend $6MM on Jeremy Affeldt, I don’t see why they can’t spend that kind of money on Rasmus if it comes to it. The savings for the budget will have to come elsewhere (the bullpen).
On Friday while I was working, the internet was busy throwing around names and came up with the future Hall of Famer Ichiro Suzuki as an option for the San Francisco Giants as they search for a Left Field platoon partner with Gregor Blanco that could hit LHP.
While Baseball Reference has both Ichiro and Brett Gardner hitting Free Agency at the same time (after the 2014 season), remember that Brett Gardner will be going into his age 30 season and is an everyday player while Ichiro is going into his age 40 season and is more of a platoon player, and is a bench player for the Yankees.
Looking at Ichiro’s overall numbers, you may be turned off right away:
|SEA (12 yrs)||1844||8483||295||79||99||438||97||513||792||.322||.366||.418||113|
|NYY (2 yrs)||217||795||28||4||12||34||9||31||84||.280||.310||.376||87|
Sub-.300 OBP, 75 OPS+, what really is there to see here? Remember that in this exercise we’re primarily looking for a platoon partner and someone that can play defense, and at least the arm of Ichiro has never been in doubt since he’s broken into the league. A look at his numbers against LHP in 2013:
Those are much more attractive numbers and ones that should make you feel better about bringing on an old guy to the team you love. For those wondering, his on base percentage against LHP the last four seasons from 2010: .340, .325, .291, .331 . His wOBA? .342, .290, .282, .329. If there’s anything we’ve established, it’s that you’re either getting a good platoon partner or a tolerable, maybe groan-worthy partner — and who says baseball isn’t easy to predict. The rumors as for whom the Yankees might want back for the aging Hall of Famer?
I wouldn’t trade Scutaro for Ichiro. They could probably get him for less.
— Dave (@gggiants) December 7, 2013
— Jed Weisberger (@jedleyq) December 7, 2013
Since Robinson Cano signed with Seattle and Eduardo Nunez becomes the starting 2B for the Yankees for the time being, the mallet-fingered Marco Scutaro becomes an option people are looking at. I think Dave’s right that the Giants could get the Yankees for less. Dare I say what kind of less — not really, because I’ve never been any good at that kind of predicting. What I know is two teams with money trading for a player, if it happens, you don’t have to be concerned about a team worrying about somebody willing to pick up the tab on the contract. As noted earlier, Ichiro is a bench player on the Yankees, so I think they’d be wise to unload him to a team that will use him to start 60-80 games and get some value out of him, even if that value happens to be some more bench players, or a bullpen arm.
My bias towards Ichiro is that I love him, so the heart says bring him on for maybe one last year for him, and get that Ichiro Giants jersey or shirsey I’ve always wanted to get. While I would have no worries about his defense, my only concerns would be about his offensive contributions in his starts, and with his consistency spoken about a little bit earlier, I am scared that he’s going to perform so poorly that the Giants take a waiver on a journeyman left fielder and waste at bats with him a la Jeff Francoeur. Nobody wants to relive Jeff Francoeur. I do want to experience Ichiro Suzuki, though.
Robinson Cano Stays Out of the National League, Could Be Problem Against #SFGiants in 2017 World Series
Robinson Cano and his five consecutive 25-HR seasons are on its way to Safeco Field in Seattle, where he will have zero competition for the title of Best Offensive Player on the Seattle Mariners, unless the Mariners get Carlos Beltran or Shin-Soo Choo, then Cano will have some competition. There are probably quite a few old-fashioned (and new-fashioned) fans that might struggle with the idea that Matt Carpenter was worth more than Robinson Cano in 2013, but Carpenter had a season for the spreadsheets, as they say. Back to Cano, he’s getting ten years, which is ridiculous, but if there’s a team that can do something stupid right now, Seattle is one of those teams. Paying and getting Cano will be smart for probably the first three to six years, but then after that who knows. Can he Barry Bonds baseball once he hits that later stage in life? The Magic Eight Ball is telling me “IT’S NOT LIKELY,” but what does that thing know? I got married, so in your face, “Magic 8.”
Robinson Cano may not be the ALDS MVP (it’ll be a thing then, tru$t me) or the ALCS MVP when the Mariners make it to the World Series once all their pitchers plus Felix Hernandez, Hisashi Iwakuma, and David Price are pitching with their eyes closed against the upstart Houston Astros and Detroit Tigers (yea, still). However, all it takes is a short series for one person to make their mark on history. Ask Pablo Sandoval, Marco Scutaro, Cody Ross, or Edgar Renteria, you know they know. Here’s a preview from my 2017 World Series Preview — San Francisco Giants vs. Seattle Mariners: Everybody’s Cheering for Seattle.
Thanks, Dodgers, that was fun. Four games, and we thought you’d get at least two with Clayton Kershaw pitching Games 1 and 4 but no, you just got swept by Kyle Crick, Madison Bumgarner, and David DeJesus. That’s going to be a tough one to live down. Now the Giants have to face a team a little better on paper than them in pitching, and more impressively coming back from 3-1 down against Jarrod Parker and the Tigers. Pretty impressive, and Giants fans will remember how monstrosous the 2012 Champs were after they went down 3-1 against St. Louis. Remember how they used to be a thing? Poor #BFIB. The series even starts in Seattle, we all remember Robinson Cano’s grand slam in the All Star Game off of Craig Kimbrel, boy was that an impressive shot at Petco…
There’s your preview, because it’s still slightly believable, though totally October baseball, you know? Cano will still be good in 2017, and that’s going to be a problem even if the Mariners lineup still has Jesus Montero and Chone Figgins/totally Seattle Mariners player in it. This will be a series full of so many ups and downs, Giants fans will wonder if they should’ve signed Robinson Cano and ditched Marco Scutaro and forgotten about Joe Panik. Let this post be a reminder to you Giants fans in 2017: no, the Giants did the right thing in the offseason of 2013-2014. You’re going to see how bad the Mariners are in 2020, and it’s not going to look good. You’ll be glad Brian Sabean stayed out of it.
We all start as new fans sometimes.
Also should’ve used “are” instead of “is,” but whatever, I just thought “Berry Zito” instead of Barry Zito was a little funny. Could be that his autocorrect got the best of him…. Technology can just be the worst.
Ryan Vogelsong officially signed his one-year deal and went into what I consider to be predictable Vogelsong-isms that talked about his reactions to his option being turned down and how he has a chip on his shoulder, quotes that don’t surprise you, really. It was the non-Ryan Vogelsong portion of today’s press conference with General Manager Brian Sabean that got more Giants fans listening to what was going on.
On the bullpen:
Sabean said Giants board had full day of meetings discussing free-agent relievers vs. internal possibilities.
— Andrew Baggarly (@CSNBaggs) December 5, 2013
I don’t really think the Giants need to look far to fill in some of their spots as I have faith in Jake Dunning and Heath Hembree to start doing work on an annual basis for the AT&Ters. On Brandon Belt playing or moving to Left Field:
A player playing his position that he’s practiced. Imagine that. This does bring up the point that I saw floated across social media that Belt probably sits when Buster Posey is “taking a day off” and playing first.
On the magnitude of free agent signings:
Funny how quickly money you’ve budgeted out for your team can disappear. It’s also funny how similar the team from 2014 is looking to 2013. 2014 will be the “We’ve seen this before” story, and it’s either going to be a lot of fun, or it’s going to be 2011 and 2013 all over again.
On possible Tanaka pursuit with rumored new posting considerations:
Sabean said earlier no on Tanaka. I asked again given the posting changes. He said he hasn’t received anything official on that. #sfgiants
— John Shea (@JohnSheaHey) December 5, 2013
Plus, if the proposed $20MM max to post is approved, Masahiro Tanaka may not even make it over to the United States until his contract is up with the Japan Champions Rakuten Golden Eagles. His team has the right to not post, so any dreams you have of the Giants competing with a $20MM cap, I’d temper them, because that system is not an attractive offer for the NPB.
Back to left field:
Brian Sabean on LF: “I’m not optimistic that it’s going to be a big piece or something earth-shattering.”
— Carl Steward (@stewardsfolly) December 5, 2013
Given that “high-ticket” FA are out, we’re going to be looking much cheaper. The free agent pool really doesn’t have a lot to offer, so if there’s going to be a trade, your guess is as good as mine. A lot of people are still pretty surprised about how the Giants and Francisco Peguero aren’t connected at the moment. We’ll see what comes of all this, but getting a good platoon partner for Gregor Blanco would give the Giants some good outfield depth that they were missing in 2013.
In the end, this was a press conference full of non-surprising tidbits, at least for me, and I think for a lot of people. Hard to find a chunk of the fanbase that’s frustrated with $150MM of spending, yet here we are.
Monday provided the good times for teams to decide whether they would hold on to players on their 25-man roster, essentially tendering them a one-year deal that could go through the arbitration process, or non-tendering them, making them a free agent. Beat writer Hank Schulman gave a one-tweet rundown of whom you needed to get ready for:
— Henry Schulman (@hankschulman) December 3, 2013
So, with that said, let it be known that the Giants decided to tender Brandon Belt, Gregor Blanco, Tony Abreu, Yusmeiro Petit, and Joaquin Arias, while saying ta-ta officially to Sandy Rosario and Francisco Peguero. Some thoughts on the tenders (mmm… tenders…):
Belt: The most divisive first baseman on the planet because some thought he was going to be the second coming of Buster Posey and hasn’t been that (yet). Still, being an above-average MLB 1B with above-average MLB numbers make him a no-brainer to keep around. Plus, there have been rumors going around that the Giants would like to get a multi-year deal done with Belt, presumably to buy out his arbitration years through 2017.
Blanco: A joy to watch in the outfield and has decent enough splits against RHP to warrant him being in the lineup against them. Paying a couple mill to someone that can hit RHP and provide you with speed seems worth the money to me.
Abreu: A journeyman that played with four teams at the MLB level in five seasons. Defense isn’t rated as anything positive, and his offense is good against LHP, so while the Giants have no platoon going on with Marco Scutaro or Pablo Sandoval, Abreu’s bat can give some reason to give one of them a day off. For those that want to argue against Abreu’s ’13, his career numbers don’t suggest the 29-year old can keep it consistent.
Petit: He was one pitch away from a perfect game, but let us not forget he also had six outings of six or more strikeouts. In three outings he offered zero walks. In his eight outings, only one time did he not go five innings, and that was in his last start of the season. I do not mind the Giants taking a gamble on Petit to see how much longer he can mystify hitters, but I will admit, I’m not expecting much.
Arias: His value is with the glove, and his ability to play multiple infield positions, and not with the stick. You expect his .346 BABIP against RHP to stick when it’s been a career .298? Me neither. The Giants would be paying probably a little over a million if they held on to him to be depth on their bench. Pinching pennies, but you can get someone younger to do that for half the price. Looks like the Giants have their middle infield bench set as long as nobody else beats out Arias and Abreu for those spots.
To be frank I thought Sandy Rosario and Francisco Peguero were already gone so that’s why this move came as kind of odd to me. That’s what you get when you don’t go on your phone from 10pm-5pm every week day.
The San Francisco Giants, after signing Tim Hudson to a deal, decided to turn their focus on landing their #5 pitcher, be it Ryan Vogelsong, a different in-house option, someone on the market, or finding another pitcher in a trade. Apparently, the Giants have decided that Ryan Vogelsong was their best option:
— Jon Heyman (@JonHeymanCBS) November 29, 2013
The Giants rotation is now something along the lines of:
Originally the Giants had a $6.5MM option for him for 2014, but opted out, paying him $300,000 for the chance for them to explore their options for a better pitcher. Instead, it seems they could be paying more than their original option should Ryan Vogelsong first pass his physical to seal the deal, then summon his inner 2011 and 2012 seasons to earn more than what he was originally scheduled to earn.
2013 for Ryan Vogelsong saw him pitch in the World Baseball Classic and struggle in the regular season before coming back to being the Vogey we all know and love, before suffering a broken hand on a swinging HBP vs. the Nationals while he had a 6-0 lead on them:
The rest of the year he spent recovering and working to get that hand strength back, so even when he was reinstated and pitching again, he wasn’t the 100% Ryan Vogelsong we’ve been used to. What can you say about this deal? The Giants apparently didn’t like what they saw in Yusmeiro Petit, Edwin Escobar, or even Chad Gaudin enough to say to them, “You’re our #5 guy,” so if any of them are on the 25-man Opening Day Roster, it’s probably as a bullpen option. I know I can’t necessarily think of better, cheaper #5 options for the Giants that were out on the market, but I can’t say I’m thrilled or angry at this move. I’ve accepted it, and am OK with it. I believe the contributions Vogelsong can make for the Giants aren’t done yet, and this will be the last year he works his stuff with the Giants. If he can’t get that velocity back though while not improving his control+command, he’ll be pushed out of the rotation in favor of Petit or Escobar, should they still be around.
The Giants will now be turning their attention to filling out the rest of their roster, with their biggest goal of being acquiring a platoon partner for Gregor Blanco. Beat writers have said they expect the Giants to do so through trade, rather than free agency. The Winter Meetings, where baseball executives get together, will be held December 9-12 in Orlando, FL.
Were you expecting moves the night before Thanksgiving? Me, neither. Nonetheless, here they are:
— San Francisco Giants (@SFGiants) November 28, 2013
Peguero was listed as the #10 prospect within the SF organization, but let’s not get that confused for a “top prospect,” overall. I will say, that their choosing of Peguero over Roger Kieschnick is interesting, but maybe there are some conversations we don’t know about between the Giants and Franky Pegs or Kieschnick.
The people at SB Nation’s Padres site, Gas Lamp Ball did an article on Jose De Paula earlier this calendar year and we find out a little bit about the kid from the Dominican Republic. Then there’s Erik Cordier, the guy who’s got a roster spot on the squad right now despite having no MLB appearances. This is quite the move, though it’s been a while since the Giants have had a flamethrower on their squad, even if there is no movement on his fastball. Here’s an interaction between pitcher Shane Loux, and beat writer Henry Schulman on the odd-ness of the move:
Then a former teammate of Cordier, Doug Mathis, that was playing with the AAA-Pirates squad weighed in:
— Henry Schulman (@hankschulman) November 28, 2013
So the Giants brought on a flamethrower, someone that struck out 28% of the guys he faced, and walked 12.1% of them in 53 innings pitched and 44 games. Perhaps the Giants figured if they had just signed Cordier to a Minor League contract that he would get picked in the Rule 5 Draft by an organization that needs a power arm, and so they gave him a MLB deal. I’m sure that was very welcome by Mr. Cordier and his camp, so we’ll see how this works out once camp rolls around. Or heck, maybe he doesn’t make it to camp and a move is made before then. Still, some interesting moves, albeit relatively minor ones for the time being.